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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by http on Thursday February 27 2014, @09:02PM

    by http (1920) on Thursday February 27 2014, @09:02PM (#8190)

    Don't fuss with little details. Getting the site operational is more important than getting gussied up for the cotillion. Things like, letting users set Comment Byte Limit to less than 128K. That works out to over 20,000 words, and I don't think anyone's coming here for a novella!

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Appalbarry on Thursday February 27 2014, @10:06PM

    by Appalbarry (66) on Thursday February 27 2014, @10:06PM (#8202) Homepage Journal

    20,000 words? What? Is Bennett Haselton here?

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by EvilJim on Thursday February 27 2014, @11:01PM

      by EvilJim (2501) on Thursday February 27 2014, @11:01PM (#8229)

      god I hope not!

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by Bennett Haselton on Friday February 28 2014, @01:55AM

      by Bennett Haselton (3384) on Friday February 28 2014, @01:55AM (#8312)

      Who?

      • (Score: 1) by Yog-Yogguth on Friday February 28 2014, @03:03AM

        by Yog-Yogguth (1862) on Friday February 28 2014, @03:03AM (#8344) Journal

        Ah I was wondering what the highest UID was and now I knew¹ —thank you :)

        ¹ Not an error.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by mcgrew on Friday February 28 2014, @08:36AM

      by mcgrew (701) on Friday February 28 2014, @08:36AM (#8444) Homepage Journal

      Indeed, so far Mars, Ho! is only eight thousand words, less than half of that has been posted here so far (see my journal) and there are three chapters posted (ch4 today).

      When asked how long a story should be, Mark Twain said "as long as it takes to tell the story and no more." Hasselton should heed Twain.

      Kind of related to what you said, I've been puzzling over "you should update your organization template and put some links here linking back to your site" at the bottom of the left hand column. What is that?

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      Free Nobots! [mcgrewbooks.com]
  • (Score: 2) by Foobar Bazbot on Friday February 28 2014, @12:59AM

    by Foobar Bazbot (37) on Friday February 28 2014, @12:59AM (#8282)

    As I understand it, that setting affects the total page, or at least all comments on it. (I think you're interpreting it as applying to each comment individually -- apologies if I've misunderstood.) There's another group of settings that applies a score modifier to long/short comments, and that can be used to push novellas below your threshold.

    Anyway, on a laptop or desktop, I do want all comments that meet my threshold displayed, no matter how many bytes that comes out to, because scrolling/collapsing (see my sig) is a much cheaper operation than loading a new page of comments.

    On my wristwatch (whence I'm posting this), I think I'm going to create a new account so I can have separate settings, because my normal settings I normally use mean way too much scrolling. But I expect I'll just increase the threshold and keep the limit at 1MiB... at least I'll try that, see how it works out.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 28 2014, @03:14AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 28 2014, @03:14AM (#8348)

      Maybe that script can be modified to auto-collapse/hide or display the title and one line of the start according to comment length or any other such variable? Then you won't need to mess with accounts.

      Ideas are free because they're lazy :)

      • (Score: 2) by Foobar Bazbot on Friday February 28 2014, @04:40AM

        by Foobar Bazbot (37) on Friday February 28 2014, @04:40AM (#8376)

        Yeah, and I have thought of doing that (not just for the watch, also for its general utility), but:

        1. I didn't write the script, just tweaked a couple lines to get rid of errors and make it work on SN -- easy enough, but substantial investment of effort is involved to go any further, as then I have to actually read/understand the whole code.
        2. I haven't yet figured a way to run it on my watch (MOTOACTV, runs Android) -- Opera is the only browser I know works well on the tiny screen, and the android version doesn't do userscripts. I know there's an android browser (Oilcan or something) that's got a userscript engine built-in, but I haven't gotten around to trying that yet.

        In fact, my vision for the userscript, if I do get around to understanding and tinkering, is for it to at least support showing/hiding based on score (so you set your slashcode threshold to -1 so everything loads, then let the script auto-collapse everything below your actual threshold, which only the script knows about). Possibly also implement an "abbreviated" state (more-or-less like D2), and in that case, paying attention to comment lengths is essential -- it's stupid to show a 3-line comment abbreviated to 2 lines, and it may be desirable to abbreviate wall-o-text posts, even if they're above the threshold, to 10 lines or so. I'm also thinking about text size/color/etc. to deemphasize low-score comments without collapsing them completely.

        It's so much easier to fantasize about UI tweaks than work on them...

        • (Score: 2) by mrbluze on Friday February 28 2014, @07:36AM

          by mrbluze (49) on Friday February 28 2014, @07:36AM (#8424)

          Good suggestions. As per IRC discussions I'm hoping we can do this with a minimal of JS and as much with CSS as possible, so that a JS-free browser will be quite usable, but for bells and whistles JS appears necessary.

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          Do it yourself, 'cause no one else will do it yourself.
  • (Score: 1) by gottabeme on Tuesday March 04 2014, @03:13AM

    by gottabeme (1531) on Tuesday March 04 2014, @03:13AM (#10486)

    Yes, but. Yes the functionality is more important, but the color scheme is the most (I don't like this word, but) impactful visual feature of the site. It will turn some people away who can't stand the color.

    There are plenty of people in the community who can do colors and themes and styles, so let them! The idea that the code has to be done before the styles is a false dichotomy. We can do both at the same time; we have the technology.

    I actually think that the current theme may be significantly reducing the user base, because this dried-blood red color is not really very pleasant.