I agree, wouldn't a better solution be to (at some point in the future when everything else more critical works) provide a profile option to let users choose the colour scheme they prefer. Thus supporting the "rainbow of flavours" poll option.
I think the easiest way is to modify your style-sheet. For a basic example, using the extension "Stylish" in Firefox, I added that:
.commentTop.title h4 { background-color: blue ; }
The result: an ugly blue for the comment titles (tested on the current page).
I'm a heavy user of Stylish, and -to a smaller extent- Greasemonkey. In some cases, I've almost completely modified the UI of some tools (Redmine for instance), to make them more usable. It's amazing what one can do with those tools. I modified Redmine so heavily that my colleagues did not recognize it at once. For instance, I added small icons for each of the people who worked with me (using inline -base64- images).
The only pb is that the site must use CSS in a clever way. Some sites don't and it's painful to change elements, sometimes you have to use the full access path, ouch! And when anything changes in the CSS, agh!
BTW this is how I minimized the pain of the Beta version of a site that shall remain nameless:-)
Given that most (all) people here are quite technical, this could be an efficient intermediate solution. We could even have an area with the schemes downloadable as CSS user-styles...
(Score: 2) by SMI on Friday February 28 2014, @04:17PM
by SMI (333) on Friday February 28 2014, @04:17PM (#8740)
Thank you very much, you introduced me to the solution that I was looking for. Instead of changing SN itself, we should change the way that our browsers display it. That gives everyone the theme-ability without any legal complications for SN. After reading your comment and poking around a bit, I'm now using Stylish [mozilla.org] with one [userstyles.org] of the color schemes available on userstyles.org [userstyles.org].
Thank you for that color scheme link, I was thinking of writing a style myself, but didn't yet get around to it.
Seems to require a few tweaks (from my POV, green on red is NOT a good combination for a title - or almost anywhere, for that matter), but it's a decent starting point.
As for the poll, I voted green - with a name like "Soylent", it seemed natural. With the Other Site switching over to white, soon enough there wouldn't be any confusion anyway:) Though a different shade would probably be a good idea.
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I just tried in Firefox (inspect element), setting background-color to #004488; That's starting to look in a direction I'd like even better than the current red. (Yes I voted blue;-)
I just tried it and found I don't like that blue;-) However playing a bit with the colours I found #aa9933 gives a nice green which is far enough from the Slashdot green that I doubt it would generate any trademark problems.
-- The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
I tried your color, and I'm pretty sure our monitors happen to fall on different ends of the calibration spectrum. Which indicates a problem: how to pick a color that looks acceptable on most default-calibrated monitors?
(For simplicity's sake, we can reduce it to "looking acceptable on both Maxwell demon's monitor and on FakeBeldin's monitor)
I guess I'd have to look at the underlying code, but couldn't there be a variable chosen by the user, held in a cookie, that would point to the right stylesheet? Why would it need separate instances of Apache?
What cluster-fuckery is it that one can't just put a simple hexadecimal color identifier in their preferences section?
If you need to spawn multiple instances of Apache to handle something so basic and fucking trivial, that section of code needs to be abandoned ENTIRELY.
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good idea, I didn't like the red when I first came here but it's grown on me now, so not necessary to change it but letting users pick there own would make everyone happy.
Is there consensus about the smiley being horrible? I don't know what to do to make it good but changing the yellow to transparent would be an improvement at least.
I'm all for red by default too, although if the team want to make different CSS styles available, that's their call. My reasoning is that while Soylent Green might be more traditional, we currently have Soylent Red, Slashdot Green, and Pipedot Blue, so between the three sites we have the three colours that make up a display pixel. It's a small thing, but it's still kind of cool.
I'm wondering if anybody else is seeing the sort of inherent symbolism in the current color scheme.
"The Other Site" is green, i.e., "full speed ahead on Beta and damn the torpedoes!"
Soylent is red, i.e., "don't fix the interface if it ain't broke."
:-)
P.S: Can anybody explain why no matter which post setting I pick, my html paragraphs get collapsed together anyway? p and br tags are completely ignored:(
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What about an user option? Just have a text box that allows to enter a colour code (like #008000 or #0000ff), and then that colour and variations of it (mixing that colour with appropriate amounts of black or white) are used for that user.
-- The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
This is a silly false dichotomy. There are plenty of people in the community who can work on colors and styles and themes. Let them! Then the templates can be switched at the push of a button.
This is as bad as people complaining that the DayZ standalone is getting new cosmetic items while zombies aren't perfect yet. There are people who are good at each thing, and they're all doing their thing! It's not an either/or, nor is it a first/then.
If you really like this color so much, just say so. Personally, I'm not a fan of dried-blood red for a primary color.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by rumata on Thursday February 27 2014, @09:14PM
I reckon the team has better things to do than fiddling with colour schemes (where there will never be any consensus, ever).
Cheers,
Michael
(Score: 5, Insightful) by clone141166 on Thursday February 27 2014, @10:19PM
I agree, wouldn't a better solution be to (at some point in the future when everything else more critical works) provide a profile option to let users choose the colour scheme they prefer. Thus supporting the "rainbow of flavours" poll option.
(Score: 4, Informative) by SMI on Thursday February 27 2014, @10:56PM
See this [dev.soylentnews.org] thread. I'm sure it's still possible, eventually.
(Score: 2) by clone141166 on Thursday February 27 2014, @11:04PM
Thanks SMI, I didn't realise there were technical limitations behind supporting multiple colour schemes simultaneously.
(Score: 5, Informative) by lgsoynews on Friday February 28 2014, @10:06AM
I think the easiest way is to modify your style-sheet. For a basic example, using the extension "Stylish" in Firefox, I added that :
The result: an ugly blue for the comment titles (tested on the current page).
I'm a heavy user of Stylish, and -to a smaller extent- Greasemonkey. In some cases, I've almost completely modified the UI of some tools (Redmine for instance), to make them more usable. It's amazing what one can do with those tools. I modified Redmine so heavily that my colleagues did not recognize it at once. For instance, I added small icons for each of the people who worked with me (using inline -base64- images).
The only pb is that the site must use CSS in a clever way. Some sites don't and it's painful to change elements, sometimes you have to use the full access path, ouch! And when anything changes in the CSS, agh!
BTW this is how I minimized the pain of the Beta version of a site that shall remain nameless :-)
Given that most (all) people here are quite technical, this could be an efficient intermediate solution. We could even have an area with the schemes downloadable as CSS user-styles...
(Score: 2) by SMI on Friday February 28 2014, @04:17PM
Thank you very much, you introduced me to the solution that I was looking for. Instead of changing SN itself, we should change the way that our browsers display it. That gives everyone the theme-ability without any legal complications for SN. After reading your comment and poking around a bit, I'm now using Stylish [mozilla.org] with one [userstyles.org] of the color schemes available on userstyles.org [userstyles.org].
(Score: 1) by Ryuugami on Monday March 03 2014, @04:14AM
Thank you for that color scheme link, I was thinking of writing a style myself, but didn't yet get around to it.
Seems to require a few tweaks (from my POV, green on red is NOT a good combination for a title - or almost anywhere, for that matter), but it's a decent starting point.
As for the poll, I voted green - with a name like "Soylent", it seemed natural. With the Other Site switching over to white, soon enough there wouldn't be any confusion anyway :) Though a different shade would probably be a good idea.
The trouble with being punctual is that people think you have nothing more important to do.
(Score: 1) by FakeBeldin on Saturday March 01 2014, @10:37AM
I just tried in Firefox (inspect element), setting background-color to #004488; ;-)
That's starting to look in a direction I'd like even better than the current red. (Yes I voted blue
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Sunday March 02 2014, @06:40AM
I just tried it and found I don't like that blue ;-) However playing a bit with the colours I found #aa9933 gives a nice green which is far enough from the Slashdot green that I doubt it would generate any trademark problems.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 1) by FakeBeldin on Wednesday March 05 2014, @09:27AM
I tried your color, and I'm pretty sure our monitors happen to fall on different ends of the calibration spectrum.
Which indicates a problem: how to pick a color that looks acceptable on most default-calibrated monitors?
(For simplicity's sake, we can reduce it to "looking acceptable on both Maxwell demon's monitor and on FakeBeldin's monitor)
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Friday February 28 2014, @08:41AM
I guess I'd have to look at the underlying code, but couldn't there be a variable chosen by the user, held in a cookie, that would point to the right stylesheet? Why would it need separate instances of Apache?
Free Nobots! [mcgrewbooks.com]
(Score: 2) by Khyber on Sunday March 02 2014, @12:05AM
What cluster-fuckery is it that one can't just put a simple hexadecimal color identifier in their preferences section?
If you need to spawn multiple instances of Apache to handle something so basic and fucking trivial, that section of code needs to be abandoned ENTIRELY.
Destroying Semiconductors With Style Since 2008
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Sunday March 02 2014, @10:45AM
Perhaps |. had the right idea - slashcode was the one which was designed to throw away.
Making a public pledge to no longer contribute to slashdot
(Score: 1) by EvilJim on Thursday February 27 2014, @11:03PM
good idea, I didn't like the red when I first came here but it's grown on me now, so not necessary to change it but letting users pick there own would make everyone happy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 27 2014, @11:43PM
Make everyone happy except the control freaks and busybodies, yes.
(Score: 1) by quitte on Friday February 28 2014, @04:06AM
Is there consensus about the smiley being horrible? I don't know what to do to make it good but changing the yellow to transparent would be an improvement at least.
(Score: 2) by mrbluze on Friday February 28 2014, @07:38AM
We will eventually color match all icons.
Do it yourself, 'cause no one else will do it yourself.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Friday February 28 2014, @08:43AM
I like the smileys, don't change them!
Free Nobots! [mcgrewbooks.com]
(Score: 2) by mrbluze on Saturday March 01 2014, @03:11AM
Smileys stay, but they might be better looking.
Do it yourself, 'cause no one else will do it yourself.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by zocalo on Friday February 28 2014, @05:39AM
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
(Score: 2) by SMI on Friday February 28 2014, @03:22PM
I'm glad you pointed that out. :)
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 01 2014, @05:09AM
The green pixel is dead. Netcraft should be confirming it soon.
(Score: 1) by tangomargarine on Friday February 28 2014, @12:51PM
I'm wondering if anybody else is seeing the sort of inherent symbolism in the current color scheme.
"The Other Site" is green, i.e., "full speed ahead on Beta and damn the torpedoes!"
Soylent is red, i.e., "don't fix the interface if it ain't broke."
:-)
P.S: Can anybody explain why no matter which post setting I pick, my html paragraphs get collapsed together anyway? p and br tags are completely ignored :(
A Discordian is Prohibited of Believing what he reads.
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday March 01 2014, @02:13AM
This is a
two-line paragraph.
This is
another one.
Seems to work correctly for me (setting Plain Old Text).
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 1) by tangomargarine on Sunday March 02 2014, @02:29AM
It enforces the paragraph spacing, which is too thin to my eyes. I want to insert a <br> between paragraphs but it strips it out.
A Discordian is Prohibited of Believing what he reads.
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Sunday March 02 2014, @05:06AM
This is a paragraph
This is another one.
Seems to work for me as well. Here's the source:
Maybe you used an XHTML <br/> instead of an HTML <br>?
Anyway, your actual complaint doesn't seem to be that the br tag doesn't work, but that the paragraph spacing is too small.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 1) by tangomargarine on Monday March 03 2014, @11:01AM
Why would XHTML cause it to stop working? o_O
There are 10 <br>s between these paragraphs.
A Discordian is Prohibited of Believing what he reads.
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday March 01 2014, @02:05AM
What about an user option? Just have a text box that allows to enter a colour code (like #008000 or #0000ff), and then that colour and variations of it (mixing that colour with appropriate amounts of black or white) are used for that user.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 1) by gottabeme on Tuesday March 04 2014, @03:16AM
This is a silly false dichotomy. There are plenty of people in the community who can work on colors and styles and themes. Let them! Then the templates can be switched at the push of a button.
This is as bad as people complaining that the DayZ standalone is getting new cosmetic items while zombies aren't perfect yet. There are people who are good at each thing, and they're all doing their thing! It's not an either/or, nor is it a first/then.
If you really like this color so much, just say so. Personally, I'm not a fan of dried-blood red for a primary color.