But in Barabbas' own words, the start-up costs are under $1000.
And part of the expenses include "gifts" to NCommander. Barabbas is expecting NCommander to pay for those gifts. That's not quite "dishonest", as such, but my English vocabulary isn't broad enough to come up with a word for that.
NCommander has rightly agreed to pay for everything that was necessary to or useful for the start-up of the site. Right from the early days. However, the goalposts keep moving.
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That's not quite "dishonest", as such, but my English vocabulary isn't broad enough to come up with a word for that.
If they were given as gifts, then "petty" comes to my mind, or "ill-mannered" (if you count hyphenations as a single word). You don't give gifts with strings attached; if they have strings attached then they aren't gifts. He would come off much better by setting a "take-it-or-leave-it" price for whatever assets he controls instead of including stuff like this and trying to justify he's only trying to do the right and fair thing. Or auction it off if he wants to maximize and potentially profit from what he's put out. Don't unconditionally give your girlfriend a sweater then demand to get it back if you break up, or if you do, don't try to pretend you're not being tacky when you ask for it.
$2K is chump change. You could probably raise that on kickstarter in half an hour.
Give him the cash, but make a legal document out of it requiring him to give up all claims on the 'intellectual property' (yes, I see the irony here) and assets associated with this site and the associated software, database, and hardware.
If a legal document is part of it, then we're not talking about $2K any more. It costs $ to draw it up and get it right. And it implies commitment beyond $2K + costs to draw up. There is only a point to a legal document if you are prepared to back it with legal adjudication and enforcement in the event it becomes necessary. And I feel safe to say that is not what what anyone had in mind when this audacious venture was undertaken.
I understand reluctance or caution at this step. All of me fundamentally cries out "#$^%# it, just pay it and be done with it", but life experience says "here there be dragons". Not in the sense that any personality is necessarily a dragon; just in the sense that events and feelings are at an ominous stage. I'm talking out of control.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10 2014, @03:19PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Monday March 10 2014, @03:19PM (#14187)
I can envision years down the road a situation like Facebook had with the Winklevoss twins. Barbarras could surface again years later claiming NCommander "stole" his idea while the $2k payment was only for recoupment of the startup costs.
(Score: 4, Informative) by FatPhil on Monday March 10 2014, @12:46PM
And part of the expenses include "gifts" to NCommander. Barabbas is expecting NCommander to pay for those gifts. That's not quite "dishonest", as such, but my English vocabulary isn't broad enough to come up with a word for that.
NCommander has rightly agreed to pay for everything that was necessary to or useful for the start-up of the site. Right from the early days. However, the goalposts keep moving.
Making a public pledge to no longer contribute to slashdot
(Score: 4, Insightful) by hubie on Monday March 10 2014, @01:14PM
If they were given as gifts, then "petty" comes to my mind, or "ill-mannered" (if you count hyphenations as a single word). You don't give gifts with strings attached; if they have strings attached then they aren't gifts. He would come off much better by setting a "take-it-or-leave-it" price for whatever assets he controls instead of including stuff like this and trying to justify he's only trying to do the right and fair thing. Or auction it off if he wants to maximize and potentially profit from what he's put out. Don't unconditionally give your girlfriend a sweater then demand to get it back if you break up, or if you do, don't try to pretend you're not being tacky when you ask for it.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by mmcmonster on Monday March 10 2014, @01:18PM
Err... Let's look at the big picture.
$2K is chump change. You could probably raise that on kickstarter in half an hour.
Give him the cash, but make a legal document out of it requiring him to give up all claims on the 'intellectual property' (yes, I see the irony here) and assets associated with this site and the associated software, database, and hardware.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday March 10 2014, @01:37PM
Making a public pledge to no longer contribute to slashdot
(Score: 3, Insightful) by fnj on Monday March 10 2014, @02:20PM
If a legal document is part of it, then we're not talking about $2K any more. It costs $ to draw it up and get it right. And it implies commitment beyond $2K + costs to draw up. There is only a point to a legal document if you are prepared to back it with legal adjudication and enforcement in the event it becomes necessary. And I feel safe to say that is not what what anyone had in mind when this audacious venture was undertaken.
I understand reluctance or caution at this step. All of me fundamentally cries out "#$^%# it, just pay it and be done with it", but life experience says "here there be dragons". Not in the sense that any personality is necessarily a dragon; just in the sense that events and feelings are at an ominous stage. I'm talking out of control.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10 2014, @03:19PM
I can envision years down the road a situation like Facebook had with the Winklevoss twins. Barbarras could surface again years later claiming NCommander "stole" his idea while the $2k payment was only for recoupment of the startup costs.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Toaster42 on Monday March 10 2014, @02:54PM
In US English the non-PC idiomatic expression is 'Indian Giver'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_giver [wikipedia.org]
All higher forms of thinking come from neural connections built by solving the kinds of problems encountered in math.-Md
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 10 2014, @05:13PM
That would be your solid impression, I take it.