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posted by janrinok on Monday March 17 2014, @08:03PM   Printer-friendly
from the borg-revisited dept.

sl4shd0rk writes:

"Bill Gates says everyone needs to prepare to be out of work in 20 years due to Robots/software taking over most jobs. In preparation for this, Gates recommends people 'should basically get on their knees and beg businesses to keep employing humans' and reduce operating overhead for businesses by 'eliminating payroll and corporate income taxes while also not raising the minimum wage'. Bill Gates, you may recall, is the former CEO of Microsoft whose business acumen has brought the technology sector such things as Metro, Windows Phone and Xbox One.

BusinessInsider took a similar theme earlier this year."

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 20 2014, @04:40PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 20 2014, @04:40PM (#19058)

    Mondragon [is] more a form of democratic capitalism

    The reason you think that that is Capitalism is because, again, you are one those who doesn't understand what Capitalism actually is (but will defend it anyway).

    When SOMEONE ELSE owns the company and you are simply a disposable employee with no voice in the direction the company takes (e.g. whether your job will be exported), THAT is Capitalism.

    Mondragon is nothing like that. Everyone there is an owner and everyone there makes money by his LABOR; there is no separate "investor" class involved (e.g. Paris Hilton sitting on her ass waiting for a check to arrive).

    Note: I really hate it when I hear "Middle Class". That is bullshit; there are only 2 classes: workers who make their money from labor (The Proletariat) and capitalists who make their money from money (The Bourgeoisie).

    .
    hasn't been tried in the USA

    You have a lot of opinions, but are seriously lacking on facts:

    Because Der Bingle was already popular at the time, his little brother's name was the one used by the larger configuration of The Bobcats--but he was NOT "The Boss" [google.com] (indeed, he couldn't read music nor play an instrument, making him the least-able of the lot).
    There were also other bands of that era that operated the same way (as democracies). That goes back about 90 years.

    Here's one of my favorite recent stories about workers taking over a workplace [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [libcom.org] when a damned useless corporation tries to screw them.

    When employee ownership in the USA comes up, Dunn-Edwards Paints springs immediately to mind.
    For good measure, here's another 99 companies in the USA where the majority ownership is the employees. [nceo.org]

    -- gewg_

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 21 2014, @07:25PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 21 2014, @07:25PM (#19526)

    No, I think you are actually the one who is misunderstanding what capitalism is. It's when the means of production are privately owned. It doesn't matter whether they're in the hands of one, or ten, or a thousand people. A privately held corporation that's wholly employee-owned is still capitalistic.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 22 2014, @12:19AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 22 2014, @12:19AM (#19606)

      Employees == Capitalism
      Worker-owned operation == Marxism
      Your feeble Reactionary attempts to redefine words don't change the facts.

      -- gewg_

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 22 2014, @06:31PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 22 2014, @06:31PM (#19821)

        Employees are a necessary but not sufficient condition for capitalism.
        Worker-owned operation is a necessary but not sufficient condition for Marxism.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 22 2014, @11:46PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 22 2014, @11:46PM (#19876)

          You know absolutely nothing about the subject.
          You're another of those "my opinions are as good as your facts" guys who conflate Capitalism with markets, profit, private ownership, and every other thing under the sun.
          You don't even realize how ridiculous are.

          You need to stop consuming lamestream media, particularly TeeVee and especially Fox so-called News. It fills your head with useless nonsense.

          At some point you should try picking up a book and reading. Start with a dictionary and move on to a text on Comparative Economics.

          Oh, and when you're in over your head, STOP DIGGING.

          -- gewg_

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 21 2014, @09:59PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 21 2014, @09:59PM (#19564)

    Here's one of my favorite recent stories about workers taking over a workplace (orig) when a damned useless corporation tries to screw them.

    When employee ownership in the USA comes up, Dunn-Edwards Paints springs immediately to mind.
    For good measure, here's another 99 companies in the USA where the majority ownership is the employees.

    I didn't say there were no employee-owned companies (or cooperatives) in the USA. What I mean is, it's not the norm. Corporations are the last refuge of kings and their courts. We like a hierarchical, dictatorial style of management and Big Business is clearly the dominant form of capitalism in the USA today.