First off, it's early, I'm tired, and under-caffeinated.
I guess I'm missing the backstory on what the motivation for the new "user" element, what need it's meeting, its expected syntax, and expected result.
I understand things best from being given a set of examples. I'm frustrated as I have nothing to go on and all my attempts at using some kind of element with "user" in it have come up empty. :/ From your reply, I'm guessing the purpose is to allow someone to refer to a user on the site. Your examples suggest there are two variations.
I'm also very curious about error cases... non-existent UIDs (e.g. too small, too large, non-numeric) and non-existent nicks (typo, case-sensitivity(?), etc.)
So, I'm still at a loss for the expected/permitted *syntax* for the new user elements, as well as what the expected output is in each case.
Separately, I would think this should be documented somewhere on the site, as I'll not be the only one wondering about this. (Hmm, might be useful to have a page enumerating the permitted tags/elements and give examples of each... not everyone comes to our site knowing HTML. I need to think about that one some more.)
Hmm, maybe you were giving me examples of the syntax of the input instead of examples of the output?
@The+Mighty+Buzzard
@#18
Does not appear to be the case; at least in preview, they appear exactly as I typed them. Let's try putting angle brackets around them:
<@The+Mighty+Buzzard>
<@#18>
I've replaced the less/greater than chars with named character entities to show what I had used; nothing was displayed in either case -- the elements were completely removed.
Let's try using a "user" element:
<user @The+Mighty+Buzzard>
<user @#18>
Same result, and same change, after the fact, to reveal what I had entered.
Let's try again using a syntax analagous tothe URL element:
<user:@The+Mighty+Buzzard>
<user:@#18>
And that caused the elements to be removed, too. Again, to show what I had entered, in the preceding I have replaced each less-than character that I had typed with its named character entity: < and each greater-than with >
(Score: 2) by martyb on Sunday January 11 2015, @03:48PM
See: 14.12 Update [soylentnews.org]:
<blockquote>preceding text entered as: named-character-entity-less-than blockquote named-character-entity-greater-than
Looked correct when I pressed preview... am pressing preview again.
Nice! still see what looks like a blockquote HTML element!
Previewed again; saw no change in appearance.
Am now pressing Submit button
(Score: 2) by martyb on Sunday January 11 2015, @03:50PM
See: 14.12 Update [soylentnews.org]:
<blockquote>preceding text entered as: named-character-entity-less-than blockquote named-character-entity-greater-than
Looked correct when I clicked the Preview button
Am now clicking on the Submit button.
(Score: 2) by martyb on Sunday January 11 2015, @03:54PM
Trying sarc:
<sarcasm>witt are you looking at?</sarcasm>
Trying sarcasm:
<sarcasm>witt are you looking at?</sarcasm>
(Score: 2) by martyb on Sunday January 11 2015, @03:58PM
Trying sarc: <sarcasm>witt are you looking at?</sarcasm>
Trying sarcasm: <sarcasm>witt are you looking at?</sarcasm>
Looks like an HTML element entered as sarc is translated into being sarcasm...
Let's see what happens with mixed case:
Trying SARC: <sarcasm>SARC</sarcasm>
Trying Sarc: <sarcasm>Sarc</sarcasm>
Trying sARC: <sarcasm>sARC</sarcasm>
Space sensitive? <sarcasm> sarc </sarcasm>(That had a space after each less-than and a space before each greater-than.
(Score: 2) by martyb on Sunday January 11 2015, @04:02PM
Trying sarc: <sarcasm>witt are you looking at?</sarcasm>
Trying sarcasm: <sarcasm>witt are you looking at?</sarcasm>
Looks like an HTML element entered as sarc is translated into being sarcasm...
Let's see what happens with mixed case:
Trying SARCASM: <sarcasm>SARCASM</sarcasm>
Trying Sarcasm: <sarcasm>Sarcasm</sarcasm>
Trying sARCASM: <sarcasm>sARCASM</sarcasm>
Space sensitive? <sarcasm> sarcasm </sarcasm>(That had a space after each less-than and a space before each greater-than.
No closing tag around sarc: stuff1<sarcasm>stuff2
No closing tag around sarcasm: stuff1<sarcasm>stuff2
In preview, every instance of "sarc" within an HTML "element" (of whatever case) was converted to "sarcasm"
(Score: 2) by martyb on Sunday January 11 2015, @05:54PM
(Submitted as "HTML Formatted".)
According to 14.12 Update [soylentnews.org]:
According to the comment submission screen:
1.) I do not see the several new tags listed as being allowed?
2.) The title="this and that" attribute for the new ABBR element has its spaces stripped.
sub: normalsubnormal
sup: normalsupnormal
abbr: normalabbrnormal
strike: normal
strikenormalIt is unclear how the "user" tags are supposed to be coded and what they are intended to accomplish.
(Score: 2) by martyb on Sunday January 11 2015, @06:01PM
This sub1sub2sub3sub2sub1 that
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 11 2015, @06:47PM
martyb regular old user link typed just like it looks.
@#76: user link using #N instead of username
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(Score: 2) by martyb on Monday January 12 2015, @10:47AM
First off, it's early, I'm tired, and under-caffeinated.
I guess I'm missing the backstory on what the motivation for the new "user" element, what need it's meeting, its expected syntax, and expected result.
I understand things best from being given a set of examples. I'm frustrated as I have nothing to go on and all my attempts at using some kind of element with "user" in it have come up empty. :/ From your reply, I'm guessing the purpose is to allow someone to refer to a user on the site. Your examples suggest there are two variations.
I'm also very curious about error cases... non-existent UIDs (e.g. too small, too large, non-numeric) and non-existent nicks (typo, case-sensitivity(?), etc.)
So, I'm still at a loss for the expected/permitted *syntax* for the new user elements, as well as what the expected output is in each case.
Separately, I would think this should be documented somewhere on the site, as I'll not be the only one wondering about this. (Hmm, might be useful to have a page enumerating the permitted tags/elements and give examples of each... not everyone comes to our site knowing HTML. I need to think about that one some more.)
I look forward to any guidance you can provide.
(Score: 2) by martyb on Monday January 12 2015, @11:11AM
Hmm, maybe you were giving me examples of the syntax of the input instead of examples of the output?
@The+Mighty+Buzzard
@#18
Does not appear to be the case; at least in preview, they appear exactly as I typed them. Let's try putting angle brackets around them:
<@The+Mighty+Buzzard>
<@#18>
I've replaced the less/greater than chars with named character entities to show what I had used; nothing was displayed in either case -- the elements were completely removed.
Let's try using a "user" element:
<user @The+Mighty+Buzzard>
<user @#18>
Same result, and same change, after the fact, to reveal what I had entered.
Let's try again using a syntax analagous tothe URL element:
<user:@The+Mighty+Buzzard>
<user:@#18>
And that caused the elements to be removed, too. Again, to show what I had entered, in the preceding I have replaced each less-than character that I had typed with its named character entity: < and each greater-than with >