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joekiser writes:
"Antoine Jacoutot has given a status update for GNOME users of OpenBSD, including a short video. The GNOME release has been updated to 3.10.2, and auto-mounting of devices is now supported through a new helper program, toad. Now is a great time for desktop users to test the upcoming OpenBSD release. The ports tree was recently locked for stability testing ahead of the 5.5 release, meaning that recent -CURRENT builds are very close to what will be released in May. Antoine also addresses the upcoming issues non-Linux systems face with GNOME, such as the upcoming hard dependency on systemd."
[ED Note: I ran an OpenBSD router box years ago when tinkering about with an old PII with four NICs seemed worthwhile. The OS lived up to it's rep, but it never occurred to me to use it for a desktop system. Are any Soylentils using OpenBSD for a GNOME-based workstation?]
(Score: 3, Insightful) by chromas on Friday February 21 2014, @07:35AM
Bitching is fun.
A lot of people jumped ship when Gnome decided to take a ß on its users and turn the desktop environment everyone was comfortable with into something else. And it wasn't even sudden; Gnome's been slowly ßing over the last few years, telling their audience that settings are confusing and the defaults are perfect anyway.
No but you can't just roll the dice and expect something good to come out.
But they did like it. Then it became something else. Imagine if Windows or TechTV just suddenly dropped everything and just became something entirely different.
(Score: 1) by bugamn on Friday February 21 2014, @08:51AM
Is that an Eszett [wikipedia.org] representing an beta? Does this also mean that Soylent supports UTF8?
*After a preview test* No, it doesn't.
(Score: 1) by Foobar Bazbot on Saturday February 22 2014, @01:10AM
SN does support UTF8. However, various bits (lameness filter, preview, "Code" or "Extrans" modes) don't work or don't work well with it (yet). While I haven't tried it much myself, I've heard less reports of problems when inserting html entities than directly inserting the UTF8 character.
I'm posting this in "Plain Old Text" mode, and inserting a β here: β <--- did it work? (preview says yes)
And inserting the character itself here: β <--- and did this work? (preview says no)
(Both those, if they come through right, will be actual betas, not eszetts. The whole point of unicode is so we don't have the limitations that led to using one glyph to represent eszett and beta...)
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by bobintetley on Friday February 21 2014, @09:47AM
If a userbase are comfortable with a project, then it should never change?
I'm not arguing that either way, it's a difficult question to answer. My feeling is that projects with minimal change tend to stagnate, users drift off to the new shiny (which can be both a good and a bad thing) and the project loses relevancy.
The GNOME team did keep the "classic" mode, that basically allows you to use a desktop that looks and works like GNOME2, but with GTK3 etc, however I'm not sure whether that was an option earlier on and it doesn't seemed to have appeased the folks who claim they still want GNOME2 anyway.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by efitton on Friday February 21 2014, @11:58AM
The GNOME team did not have "classic" mode for years until Mate and Cinnamon ate their lunch. My understanding is that "classic" is not fully functional or compatible compared to GNOME 2. For example, they moved the clock back to the default spot of GNOME 2 but did NOT allow users to move the clock. They missed the point with classic.
I think there is a huge difference between stagnation and wholesale changes. I also think GNOME did themselves no favors by keeping the name. They went from a proven full featured desktop to an experimental desktop but did kept the same name. Changing the direction of a project while keeping the name and expecting the same treatment, including being the default DE shipped by distributions, will certainly bring resentment.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 23 2014, @03:24AM
I don't think Classic was about MATE or Cinnamon. I think it was something that Red Hat's customers demanded. Red Hat compelled Gnome to develop a Classic desktop lest they lose business.