buswolley writes:
"Is the United States or the EU really too poor to afford to build the things each needs to maintain prosperous nations? Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) posits that America is not too poor in real resources to do the things it needs to do, and now proponents of the theory have adapted the rules of the classic board game Monopoly to demonstrate their case. For those that do not know what modern monetary theory is about, a suitable primer on the topic might be Warren Mosler's Seven Deadly Innocent Frauds of Economy Policy or Diagrams and Dollars, either as a book on Amazon or on-line for free at NewEconomicsPerspectives.org.
While the Modern Monetary Theory perspective tends to elicit disbelief and even rage, I think it is important for any scientist and geek to weigh the evidence carefully, and by doing so understand better about how and why money is created and destroyed."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 01 2014, @08:10PM
No problem. And it's worth noting that while China was never going to own the US, it's also true that China decided that owning the US is a bad deal. (I'm summarising their decisions with respect to US debt in the light of instability prospects, imbalancing effects on current account deficits, prospects of currency revaluations (theirs) and diversification.)
But all of that matters precisely because of the unchanged function of money regardless of its value: that of a unit of account. In fact, it's because it's a unit of account that savings and financial assets are vulnerable to inflation.
This next segment I will go through in small parts, because it's messy to untangle.
So far, so good.
Pragmatically, it really can't, except by regulation. Why? Because people will continue to serve each other's needs regardless of what the government wants as long as there's a return. The higher the burden, the larger the black market and the more destructive of government control the situation is. Prohibition and the War on Drugs are microeconomic examples, and the old USSR is a macroeconomic example. If you try to tax what people want out of existence, they smuggle it. If you ban it, they make it in the black market. If you ban private commerce entirely, you probably fail and you certainly foment vast human misery. The answer to that is to guard civil liberties, of which private enterprise should be regarded as one.
The problem in this scenario is one of relevance. If the only buyer for what I do is the government, and the only purpose for the sale is to gather money which is paid to the government, where's my motivation to participate? I'd rather deal in barter, or a potlatch style economy and have no usefully measurable taxable income which does me no good anyway. And if that is banned or choked by regulation, I'll sit in a corner and compose poetry because what motivates me to do anything else? This is the dilemma, or something very close to it, which is created for many third world farmers who flooded out by well-meaning food donations. They know they'll be fed, so subsistence isn't much of a driver. Working the land is punishingly hard work, so if they don't have to farm they won't - so they stop farming. This is a real example, and so destructive that the very concept of food aid is under heavy fire.
It's not at all clear that the low growth is a certain thing - in fact, provided a reasonably free field and a chance to accumulate meaningful capital, people will generally work like dogs to better their own lot. There's a fair amount of evidence to suggest that private expenditure is in fact more efficient than government expenditure at wealth creation.
Again, you're looking at the money to the exclusion of other elements in the economy, which is probably why you don't see the distortionary effects. First, if there is large government expenditure but low taxes, you're either extracting capital via a bond structure, thus reducing your short term money supply and choking the supply of capital to enterprise, or you're printing money and essentially reducing the reward for financial success by guaranteeing inflation down the line. But even assuming neither of those is true because you're spending an accumulated rainy day fund of some sort, you're raising the cost of labour in the market and introducing inelasticity. Slice it how you like it, but some element of this pattern is affecting one or more of access to labour, capital and given the twisted priorities behind government employment of last resort as a universal, you're probably not getting value for money in terms of what the government employees are giving you anyway, thereby reducing net productivity even though you have nominal full employment. The mere fact that there are low taxes in the abstract doesn't mean much if the capital held is withdrawn via bonds or devalued by inflation.
It's not clear that the spending continues infinitely (in fact in reality it's crystal clear that it doesn't) and businesses will only chase money which is worth their time and effort. There are actually businesses which use durable commodities as hedges against inflation and currency fluctuations and this is standard practice.
It turns out that debt does matter, interest payments do matter, and deficits (current account as well as budget) do matter. While I agree that the rhetoric is often a little hysterical, it's not entirely divorced from reality. Moreover, the logic of fiat currency actually supports concerns about debts and deficits when you look at longer term consequences and the degree to which these systems are interconnected. Sorry, Modern Monetary Theory doesn't rescue the theory of consequence-free government spending.
It strikes me, frankly, as people who realised that MMT doesn't get it all right, but don't really want to give up their vague optimism that somewhere, somehow, if they look long enough, they will find a free lunch. I have yet to see a cogent explanation of what MMR actually is, because it's largely defined as all the parts of MMT they don't adhere to. This is not helpful.
This is more or less correct. A more accurate statement might be to the effect that congress permits it up to a point, but has banned reserveless banking. It's actually even more complicated than that, but you're not really wrong.
This is not as true as a lot of people would love to think. The government would love to have total control over fiat currency supply manipulation, but those darned general public people keep misbehaving themselves in complex ways. The government is constantly chasing a mirage, in terms of money supply control, and its actual powers are very blunt, heavy instruments. Also, the less convenient money is, the more people turn to alternative means. For example, in much of the rural regions of the USA, guns and ammunition are as good as money.
It already is. Most people just don't understand that.