I voted for go free with freenode, but after reading this, I'm sold with stay independant.
Also, the fortigate at work is blocking pipedot.org, so I really need this site to keep working. I know you cannot help in that regard, but I figured casting this out into the ether will let the ghosts in the machine know my preference so I might damn them should they fail me.
Really, anything to keep the SN message getting to workers who should be working, must be done at any cost.
Corporate proxys/firewalls such as Fortigate tend to block based on blacklists either provided by the supplier and/or maintained internally. As pipedot.org (and SN.org) is a tech news site, you should be able to ask your IT people to unblock it. It's possible that pipedot.org hasn't be classified yet, so is blocked by default (some places do that).
-Jar
-- Wash at 40°C, and hand dry only.My MUD Engine [jaruzel.com]
Having your own IRC service is absolutely not a guarantee that it won't be blocked by corporate filtering.
Today, dev.soylentnews.org is seen as Information Technology so will probably never be blocked by most filtering policies. The web chat (chat.sylnt.org) is uncategorized. Most companies (if not all, in some regions) tend to BLOCK when it's uncategorized. CISO feels safer, as users will not go to the uncategorized Internet. Support/admins cry, as they have to micro manage all the exceptions for the end users.
Actually that does help me - thanks very much. It's quite hard digging up all those classification URLs for the different services, so I've bookmarked the above, Cheers. (I'm having a classification issue with one of my own domains).
-Jar
-- Wash at 40°C, and hand dry only.My MUD Engine [jaruzel.com]
I figured casting this out into the ether will let the ghosts in the machine know my preference so I might damn them should they fail me.
lol
One thing people might want to consider is http://www.herdict.org/ [herdict.org] for keeping track of "Web blockages" - including deliberate local blocking of sites you care about. It's a bit crappy, but better than nothing, and I believe all the submitted data are free/open.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 12 2014, @12:48PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday March 12 2014, @12:48PM (#15376)
You can easily make an argument to unblock freenode as so many open source projects offer support there. If you cannot make an argument because your job has nothing to do with any of that, maybe you shouldn't waste the time, you're being paid for, on online chatting.
I recommend running an irc bouncer at home (I use znc with ssl enabled). I just connect to my home machine from work and have instance access to all the IRC networks and channels I'm logged in to. Also, since znc stays permanently connected to these channels it provides me with the backlog of conversation as soon as I connect to it showing everything I've missed since I was last connected.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by CHALLNGEACCPTD on Tuesday March 11 2014, @05:48PM
So please stay independant
(Score: 3, Interesting) by tynin on Tuesday March 11 2014, @06:47PM
I voted for go free with freenode, but after reading this, I'm sold with stay independant.
Also, the fortigate at work is blocking pipedot.org, so I really need this site to keep working. I know you cannot help in that regard, but I figured casting this out into the ether will let the ghosts in the machine know my preference so I might damn them should they fail me.
Really, anything to keep the SN message getting to workers who should be working, must be done at any cost.
(Score: 1) by bryan on Tuesday March 11 2014, @07:07PM
Both sites are using Linode; odd that any access would be different. Maybe try HTTPS instead of HTTP?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Jaruzel on Wednesday March 12 2014, @05:00AM
Corporate proxys/firewalls such as Fortigate tend to block based on blacklists either provided by the supplier and/or maintained internally. As pipedot.org (and SN.org) is a tech news site, you should be able to ask your IT people to unblock it. It's possible that pipedot.org hasn't be classified yet, so is blocked by default (some places do that).
-Jar
Wash at 40°C, and hand dry only. My MUD Engine [jaruzel.com]
(Score: 2, Informative) by francois on Wednesday March 12 2014, @02:26PM
Having your own IRC service is absolutely not a guarantee that it won't be blocked by corporate filtering.
Today, dev.soylentnews.org is seen as Information Technology so will probably never be blocked by most filtering policies.
The web chat (chat.sylnt.org) is uncategorized. Most companies (if not all, in some regions) tend to BLOCK when it's uncategorized.
CISO feels safer, as users will not go to the uncategorized Internet. Support/admins cry, as they have to micro manage all the exceptions for the end users.
Of course, asking your BOFH to open a site for you might not be a good idea so the best way to make sure it's not blocked is to ask to the vendors. Most of them allow this, either via a web page or through an email.l #page/FOS_Cookbook/UTM/cb_utm_wf_url_check.html [fortinet.com]
Fortinet : http://docs-legacy.fortinet.com/cb/html/index.htm
Websense : http://csi.websense.com/ [websense.com]
ZScaler : http://zulu.zscaler.com/ [zscaler.com]
Bluecoat : https://sitereview.bluecoat.com/sitereview.jsp [bluecoat.com]
(etc...)
HTH !
--
Francois.
(Score: 2) by Jaruzel on Thursday March 13 2014, @05:41AM
Actually that does help me - thanks very much. It's quite hard digging up all those classification URLs for the different services, so I've bookmarked the above, Cheers.
(I'm having a classification issue with one of my own domains).
-Jar
Wash at 40°C, and hand dry only. My MUD Engine [jaruzel.com]
(Score: 2) by Open4D on Wednesday March 12 2014, @02:44AM
lol
One thing people might want to consider is http://www.herdict.org/ [herdict.org] for keeping track of "Web blockages" - including deliberate local blocking of sites you care about. It's a bit crappy, but better than nothing, and I believe all the submitted data are free/open.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 12 2014, @12:48PM
You can easily make an argument to unblock freenode as so many open source projects offer support there. If you cannot make an argument because your job has nothing to do with any of that, maybe you shouldn't waste the time, you're being paid for, on online chatting.
(Score: 1) by bah on Thursday March 13 2014, @12:32AM
I recommend running an irc bouncer at home (I use znc with ssl enabled). I just connect to my home machine from work and have instance access to all the IRC networks and channels I'm logged in to. Also, since znc stays permanently connected to these channels it provides me with the backlog of conversation as soon as I connect to it showing everything I've missed since I was last connected.
(Score: 1) by CHALLNGEACCPTD on Saturday March 15 2014, @08:54AM
Thanks, I'll see what I can set up.